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Karen2310 (talk) 21:17, June 11, 2019 (UTC)

Block Edit

I've put a 24 hour block on your contributions. Please read the Coronation Street Wiki:Manual of style before it reverts. There are certain duties which are allocated to users to maintain regular pages. Episode pages are some of these. The ones you created had no infobox, links, places, etc etc, and were, I'm afraid, not up to standards we have maintained for 11 years. Again, please read the manual of style. Thank you--Jtomlin1uk (talk) 13:57, June 20, 2019 (UTC) Apologies for this misunderstanding. I should have linked it however I forgot but I agree, I did list the places however. I was hoping someone else could add the potential trivia and cast and guest cast, I did look at the manual of style and it says nothing about infoboxes, it also says you are to give sufficient chances or something, so therefore not to block after one proper mistake, as the out of episode terms time was but a minor misunderstanding. I'm surprised that nobody else amended these that wasn't an admin like my edit summary asked. I am surprised at the editor bias, there are perfectly good reasons people may have bad spelling and grammar, and practically barring them from this site seems highly wrong, as autocorrect cannot pick up every mistake that a user may write on articles. Also I do not have anything that does this, however as of now I stand up for bias against them on wikis like this one,as I believe a modern society should welcome all in my opinion. Also your welcome. Apologies again (----)

I will take your points in order. 1) The Manual of Style (MoS) specifically states in the "Maintenance" section that episode pages are done by a rota. 2) You state that the MoS doesn't mention infoboxes for episodes however there are almost 9800 episode pages on this site, none of which are without an infobox so that creates a convention. 3) You state "I'm surprised that nobody else amended these that wasn't an admin like my edit summary asked." As a convention we complete our own pages and don't start off work for others to complete. 4) Please don't question our rules as to why we block people. We've been running now for 11 years working to the highest standards possible to gain the reputation we have and we're not going to sacrifice that. Moreover, as we're tired of telling people, we all have day jobs and other lives!! If we spent all our time on the site correcting other people's errors, we'd never get anything done! As for auto-correct, I fully accept your point and so could I suggest you transfer any suggested changes to microsoft word and review them there before posting? That works well for me. 5) We welcome opinions but that will never mean that we automatically act on them! --Jtomlin1uk (talk) 23:50, June 20, 2019 (UTC)

I did notice the rota, I thought it meant admins, did that, I still see this site as slightly discriminatory however. Also just to note I think the infoboxes should be added to the manual of style. I wasn't on about me in my final point, I was on about others. I don't really understand infoboxes so I have learnt my lesson to only ever edit others pages, and not make my own new ones, even if it takes a while for someone else to make them. Thank you for making me feel welcome until this unwelcome incident. Also I actually watched repeats of the two episodes back to back, and that is why the two pages were so in depth, however I cannot get images,and I don't have time to sort everything at once, and may have done it later in the day. if I was given a chance too I may have amended the infoboxes later, also I think the infoboxes should also be amended on the manual of style. Apologies again. (----)

Thank you. I've removed the block early. I put it on, not as any sort of daft punishment, but to halt you for a moment and make you look at the manual of style. Let's move on! There are hundreds of pages which need creating on this site and for which you could really make a valuable contribution and please let me help you do that. Anything in red needs a page creating. Have a look at a guest character, such as the page for Alice Parrott which another user created a couple of days ago. Then try to do one of your own as there is no rota on these. May I suggest as a starter that for Melody, the photography class teacher this week? Copy and past the page, including the infobox, from that for Alice to that for Melody and then change the data, including the infobox and pipelinks and write up the history of the character. Avoid references such as "in the episode" but write the text as if she were a real person. Don't forget to keep the text in the past tense (Such as "Melody was..." rather than "Melody is"). Really look at your wording on this as this is the most common form of error. Create and post an image of the character, don't forget the categories (again look at those for Alice) and create the page. If you have any questions, post on my talk page rather than yours as I get notifications on my phone when those are posted, though I have a heavy weekend and can't promise a quick reply to you!--Jtomlin1uk (talk) 13:11, June 21, 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for this second chance, however it is still picking me up as blocked. I cannot post on your talk page to say this as when I try it still cites that I am a blocked user.

Strange? Please could you re-fresh your browser? I have checked two places in the site and neither is showing the black against you.--Jtomlin1uk (talk) 14:12, June 21, 2019 (UTC)

I refreshed the browser earlier and it still showed it, however it has stopped showing the block now. Also I don't have the best access to the image part, but otherwise I can do the rest. Maybe you could add the image and I could do the rest? Just to note tonight's episode is an hour and five minutes of length. Also I added the return of Rick trailer for Ricks page last week, however it was deleted, why is this? Does it count as a spoiler or something along those lines?

Yes, happy to add images if you can't. As for Rick, I didn't delete the change but I agree with the action. We are a strict "no spoilers" site - even if you are referencing something that ITV themselves publicise. This is for two reasons: 1) Other sites such as the Coronation Street Blog cover news of what's coming up, they do it well, and we don't want to tread on their toes. 2) Our lives are much simpler if we only update the site with what has occurred in transmitted episodes, ONCE they have been shown and only then. This covers all types of pages, including actor pages. If it hasn't been seen within a transmitted episode yet, don't post it. This is referenced on our main page.--Jtomlin1uk (talk) 18:35, June 21, 2019 (UTC)

So is it essentially just character name, actress, minimal info, and their appearance number, and the date of the episodes they first appeared in? Also does her original mention by Ken also go towards the page? Also thank you for clearing up the Rick scenario for me, I wonder who deleted that though? I think that is Melody done unless Kens mention also goes towards the page. To make the text neater each appearance is denoted by a paragraph, I prefer that style of formatting to a giant chunk of information if you do not mind me doing that of course.

Don't forget the links in the infoboxes for the characters that you are creating.--Jtomlin1uk (talk) 10:12, June 25, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah I did try but it isn't letting me too on iOS for some reason. Could you delete the DJ JD page for me please, I went a bit ahead, he was in an episode however his actor hasn't been released to the press yet, could you delete this page until the episode pages are caught by on please? Until I realised this I was also considering making a page for Jamie D by the way. Okay both pages for Jamie D and DJ JD are now active, actors will have to wait until I can find them however.Apologies.

Its quality over quantity. A page shouldn't be created until at least the bare minimum is covered - also the actors names are at the end of each episode or can easily be found online from a number of sources. Xx-connor-xX (talk) 23:38, June 28, 2019 (UTC)

Well the bare minimum is covered, however it's hard to read the cast at the end, because they block it with a show that the guy narrating before the start goes on about. Also with a quick search I couldn't find anything last night. I searched again and there is still nothing on the first page of Google. I'd find it off of the episode pages usually, however I kind of cannot because the episode pages are lagging a week behind at the moment., and that's not something I can do, because I don't know half of the stuff that needs to go on the pages in the infobox and cast etc, and I'm too busy to look it up for the next while too, last episode page I tried to make was a complete and utter mess.

”DJ is a DJ” was all you added to the page before creating it - that is far below even the bare minimum. If you’re too busy to complete pages perhaps just leave them to be created by others and add information in at a later date? Xx-connor-xX (talk) 15:33, June 29, 2019 (UTC)

'DJ JD is a DJ' is all I put because I noticed I did not know who the actor was, I later asked Jtomlin1uk to delete the page, before someone else decided to add more to it, also I did slightly edit the page a little later on. My loriginal plan was type that to make the page, delete it make the infoboxes, then rewrite it with more information by the way. Apologies for this misunderstanding. Grandpa Lo68 (talk) 17:17, June 29, 2019 (UTC)

New character pagesEdit

It is probably wise to not create character pages until the episode with the character's first appearance (at the very least) has been posted on the site. By doing so, all of the details relating to how the character should be named - as well as the actor's name are already posted. Could you also please take another look at your wording (specifically, in the article you've just created for Chloe (Episode 9730))... we use past tense - as the events have already happened, and omit sentences like "Chloe is only seen on screen once". Also please don't forget links and categories. Karen2310 (talk) 11:22, June 29, 2019 (UTC)

Also a reminder to always sign off your posts on talk pages with four tildes (~) so we know who's posting. David (talk) 12:50, June 29, 2019 (UTC) Apologies I got confused between tenses this time it seems. Also great idea on the first sector. I did start off with was, but then I got confused and began believing I was suppose to use present/future tense. Also why is Deirde excluded from the convicts page, she did go to prison once, however after the free the Weatherfield one campaign she was freed from prison for being framed? Also how do you link infoboxes? Shouldn't Kate Connor also be under Ranas spouses, or is a spouse when your married and not engaged? I cannot figure out how to do so you see. Once again don't have best access to image uploading so that is one thing that I cannot do. Grandpa Lo68 (talk) 15:07, June 29, 2019 (UTC)

I've gone through the character pages you just created and made some changes to bring them up to scratch. These include essentials - linked episodes and actor's names in the infobox, defaultsort for categorisation purposes - and several grammar and wording changes. In addition to Karen's advice above, can I recommend that you read a page back to yourself before posting it to make sure that it flows well as a piece of prose? David (talk) 22:02, June 29, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah I don't know how to default sort and link info boxes, also I forgot Kirk and Beth were now married, alright I know I seem to be churning out the pages today by the way, but I'll try my best to remember to do the reading over it thing, thank you. Okay I have tried making a star on a Millie Gibson previous roles page, I might look for more later, I realise it is late but do you mind reading over what I have on that page so far for me please? Grandpa Lo68 (talk) 22:04, June 29, 2019 (UTC)

Hi Grandpa Lo68, you are still creating character pages and not adding the defaultsort or infobox links. If you don't know how to do this, go to another page, click 'edit', and see how it's done there. Don't leave a mess for others to clean up! We'd much rather you spent time with a page and got it right than immediately moved onto another, or better still refrain from creating pages for a while and concentrated on improving the pages we already have as it's a good way to learn the style and formatting of the site. David (talk) 12:26, June 30, 2019 (UTC)

Apologies I'll see if I can figure it out later maybe. By the way I have found a site I am using for cast on these pages, as I know many editors use a site, this is more of a mental note for me here, but the site that I am getting the cast members from is called Andy Gibbon's informing Britain- Coronation Street.Could trivia also go towards actor pages for example miscredits for them on previous work for example Mille Gibson being Miscredited as Millie Gibbon's in two episodes of her work on TV show Jamie Johnson? Grandpa Lo68 (talk) 12:45, June 30, 2019 (UTC)

As you have created yet another page with the same deficiencies, this is your official warning. If you do so again you will receive a 2-day ban. Again, if you don't know how to fix these problems, go to another page, click 'edit', and see how it's done there. David (talk) 18:03, June 30, 2019 (UTC)

I am being told that there is an error whenever I try and link infoboxes via page names I tried the edit button too no luck there neither. Also I did default sort the Mike Porter page actually, just in the wrong place. All pages have been dually infobox linked and properly default sorted from today that I had made, apologies again. Grandpa Lo68 (talk) 21:25, June 30, 2019 (UTC)

What do you mean, "no luck there" when you tried the edit button? David (talk) 08:18, July 1, 2019 (UTC)
As I previously stated, it is preferable that these character pages are created only once the episode pages are posted on the site. By doing so, the links needed will already be provided, along with the correct episode numbers and any page that does already exist, will be linked in blue, so will just require updates. Karen2310 (talk) 22:25, June 30, 2019 (UTC)
I'm sorry, can we ask that you don't create any more new pages for the time being. Thank you. Karen2310 (talk) 07:33, July 1, 2019 (UTC)

Should Henry Newton be credited for Episode 9418? As whoever made the episodes synopsis says:Henry Newton decides that the Rovers isn't suited to being a family pub and takes the idea to the countryside instead, however he is not noted in cast or guest cast. Just a question is all. Grandpa Lo68 (talk) 13:24, July 1, 2019 (UTC)

RE: Brush ups Edit

Hi! Certainly, I'll check over those pages when I have the chance. To default-sort a page, just add {{DEFAULTSORT:Surname, Firstname}} onto the character's page (usually at the bottom). Regarding "link infoboxes", I apologise but I am unsure on what you mean. If you mean adding a link inside an infobox, this can be achieved by adding square brackets around the page name, for example, [[Ken Barlow]]. You can also use a bar to separate the page name and what you want to be displayed, such as [[Ken Barlow|Peter's father]] will look like this: Peter's father.

I hope this serves useful for you. Great job on how you've been helping the wiki! Danielroxheaps 20:06, June 30, 2019 (UTC) Whenever I try doing that it comes up saying error on both methods, thanks for the help on the Carly page without that I wouldn't have been able to infobox link the Mike porter page, so how did you do that on the Carly page may I ask? Not to worry I have it figured out now by this point. Grandpa Lo68 (talk) 21:24, June 30, 2019 (UTC)

What does the error say? Danielroxheaps 01:39, July 1, 2019 (UTC)

Ignore me I worked out the links. Grandpa Lo68 (talk) 11:48, July 1, 2019 (UTC)

I can add a list of appearances, but I won't be able to add an image as I don't have access to the ITV Hub, or a high quality episode - sorry! Danielroxheaps 19:51, July 3, 2019 (UTC)

Well I kind of meant maybe the internet for that, however thanks anyway hard to navigate that on IOS devices as it blocks half of it out you see. Thanks again. Grandpa Lo68 (talk) 21:10, July 3, 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, I completely forgot about adding the appearances. I'll be able to do them later today. Wikia has a "What Links Here" feature to show which episode pages on Corriepedia DC Ahmadi is listed in:https://coronationstreet.fandom.com/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/DC_Ahmadi Danielroxheaps 21:18, July 4, 2019 (UTC) Thank you, also can you correct a few of my mistakes that David pointed out for me below please, I would like to sort these however I have a years block, so I cannot sort what he has pointed out, however I would truly like to do so. Grandpa Lo68 (talk) 21:24, July 4, 2019 (UTC) Mistake I have a six months block I think if it is not done today along with some tensing changes that the page may be deleted, so do you mind attempting to do both for me please, if an admin did not fix the tensing changes for me as I would like to but cannot due to the ban. Thanks again and apologies once again. Grandpa Lo68 (talk) 10:41, July 6, 2019 (UTC) Apologies all it should need is some tense changes I did not realise that you did the LOA last night, also what is a NOTOC? Grandpa Lo68 (talk) 10:47, July 6, 2019 (UTC)

NOTOC stands for "No Table of Contents". On minor pages, they are unnecessary as it only shows the list of appearances. Danielroxheaps 01:06, July 7, 2019 (UTC)

Oh okay thank you. Grandpa Lo68 (talk) 10:25, July 7, 2019 (UTC)

BanEdit

Grandpa Lo68, I have put a 1-day ban on you as you have created yet another article with unlinked pages in the infobox and no functional defaultsort, despite three previous warnings about this. Aside from that, your pages have contained multiple inaccuracies (for example, you stated that DC Ahmadi had 5 appearances when he has actually made 13). Cleaning up these articles after you takes a lot of time and effort so please be more vigilant when the ban is lifted. David (talk) 08:32, July 1, 2019 (UTC)

I was going to make a minimal one last night and do further research today, and complete the page today. Also I did add a defaultsort and infobox links and even went through old pages I made to do so that did not have one already. I was going to try and find time today to make DC Ahmadi more accurate. Everything else however I had sorted. Grandpa Lo68 (talk) 11:48, July 1, 2019 (UTC)
If your pages repeatedly miss essential requirements; infobox links, images, default sorts, correct tense, then it is up to other people to sort it out. When you are creating as many new pages (with all these faults) as you have been it becomes hard for people to come along and clean up behind you. Xx-connor-xX (talk) 11:53, July 1, 2019 (UTC)
As I stated I was going to sort the DC Ahmadi page later today, with appearance number strangely I have put the word defaultsort at the bottom of each page of mine that I cleared up, as well as linked the infoboxes. I was going to start DC Ahmadi last night and planned on finishing it later today. Grandpa Lo68 (talk) 11:57, July 1, 2019 (UTC)
But why didn't you wait till you had completed the page before creating it? Xx-connor-xX (talk) 12:03, July 1, 2019 (UTC)

Because I wanted to start it last night, also I did infobox link, and I attempted to defaultsort, but I'm unsure if I did the defaultsort wrong. If I didn't have the ban after I'm done sorting another wiki I'd have come and sorted it and tried to do deeper research into the character. Grandpa Lo68 (talk) 12:08, July 1, 2019 (UTC) If I wasn't banned I would be completing the DC Ahmadi page now by the way. Grandpa Lo68 (talk) 13:07, July 1, 2019 (UTC) I have sorted the DC Ahmadi page as a fandom user, I also worked out how to properly defaultsort by doing so. Also the infoboxes were linked as I said, just the default sorts were done wrong, if you classify a red link as unlinked, this just means that the page is linked however the page that it is linked too is yet to exist, so the red links on the infoboxes were links, convention has been dually fixed and followed now. Defaultsort ing A&E Psychiatric Liason Officer however somehow put the episode date and a link to its corresponding episode popped up, and is stuck on the page however.Grandpa Lo68 (talk) 15:46, July 1, 2019 (UTC)

First of all, flouting a ban is itself a bannable offence - I will let it pass this once (and only once) and assume you didn't know this. Secondly, as Connor asked above, why are you posting pages which haven't been completed? The research should be done before you start typing, not after the page has been posted!! None of the pages you have worked on are high priority, so there is no urgency to get them out. David (talk) 19:43, July 1, 2019 (UTC)

I used the flaunt as a learning experience, as I doubted you would lift it early if I had informed you that I would sort it given spare time today. Grandpa Lo68 (talk) 21:20, July 1, 2019 (UTC) I have learnt the defaultsort said, tensing, and infoboxes now, I don't add images as I informed site creator Jtomlin1uk who was okay with the fact that I did not do so this. Grandpa Lo68 (talk) 16:33, July 2, 2019 (UTC)

Your block on this account is now extended further - due to the fact you have created yet another new username. The rules around ban-flouting have already been pointed out to you. Karen2310 (talk) 19:24, July 30, 2019 (UTC)


Apologies for that I wanted to sort a few things to help out. Also at last i got the password for this right. Also because I couldn't I made a new account named returnofthelo which hasn't done any edits here. Want me to bring it here, I was steering clear with it until a month to the day of the ban, as I thought it'd be far easier to do 11 months if it were to be the same as the block on this account. I'll see if i'm able to next Monday or Tuesday though, as I use it to check my pages daily. If I have to make an edit to get it banned, i'll see if I can find a way. Apologies again. Grandpa Lo68 (talk) 11:25, August 1, 2019 (UTC)

Other questionsEdit

In answer to some of your other questions posted here: Henry Newton did not appear in Episode 9418 (30th March 2018), which is why he's not in the cast list. The information given on the episode's synopsis came via Peter Barlow, so I've just reworded it slightly to reflect that. Also Deirdre Barlow, Tracy and Gail have been excluded from [[Category:Convicts]], as per the note on the top of said page. Karen2310 (talk) 06:36, July 2, 2019 (UTC)

Why has Deirde been excluded though? She went to prison once and there was a public outcry that stretched into parliament for her release however. also thank you for replying to these. How do you defaultsort A&E Psychiatric Liason Officer though? I noticed the others are the names done backwards or the names then the episode number/numbers in brackets and putting Oficcer, Liason Psychiatric A&E just brings up the episode number at the bottom of the page for the character, so it begs the question, is it even possible to defaultsort that character? Grandpa Lo68 (talk) 12:58, July 2, 2019 (UTC)

 

Since we all seem to have been bombarded with questions, I'll answer the ones you've directed at me as plain and simply as I can.
1. Taken from the top of the 'Convicts category page'..... "Note: This page is strictly limited to people who have spent time in jail for acts they which they were found guilty, without any subsequent change to the verdict, and imprisoned. Thus characters such as Deirdre Barlow, Tracy McDonald and Gail Rodwell are excluded as are any characters who were issued with a fine for their offence".
2. Dirk does not have a page here because he is a non-speaking, uncredited extra.
3. We've asked you NOT to create any more new articles, so please don't ask about this.
4. Defaultsorts - (usually) only needed when the character/actor has both a first name and surname to list it alphabetically under surname. Pages such as Bellboy (Episode 9798), A&E Psychiatric Liaison Nurse (2019 character) and the like do not need a defaultsort.
Karen2310 (talk) 17:40, July 2, 2019 (UTC)

Then how come someone added Gail to convicts recently? Not sure who did however. Also okay, am I allowed to make new pages after the episode pages have caught up however? Also is it allowed to use another device that is easier to navigate a list of appearances for the DC Ahmadi page? Grandpa Lo68 (talk) 21:27, July 2, 2019 (UTC)
I'm afraid this will be my final piece of correspondence on your page, as you don't seem to understand what I'm writing. Gail is not in the convicts category - I merely added her name to the top of the page as an exclusion (which is copied and pasted word for word for you to see on my previous message) - please feel free to read the category page for yourself and then check the bottom of Gail's page to see if "convicts" is listed as one of the categories at the bottom. I'm 100% sure you'll find it isn't; and no new pages means no new pages. With regard to devices, nobody is restricted to editing on just one device - any user can sign in on any device. Karen2310 (talk) 21:56, July 2, 2019 (UTC)

No I mean another device off of the account? Thank you for the explanation of Gail too. Also how come? I understand what I am doing in terms of defaultsort so and infobox linking now. Just to note you asked not to make any more new pages, 'for the time being' which means for now and leads me to believe that you mean until the episode pages have caught up. Also apologies about what I had mentioned with Gail it seems you were correct. Thanks again. Grandpa Lo68 (talk) 10:17, July 3, 2019 (UTC)

Your questions one at a time:
  • I'm sorry, who is Little Bez? We have no links to that page anywhere on the site.
  • Apologies are not necessary, any admins are capable of handling any enquiries.
  • We'd rather you held off on creating new pages for the moment and took the time to get the 21 pages right that you have already made. We have taken a lot of time and effort to review your edits and correct mistakes, and I'm sure you will agree that this can't go on. If you show that you can be trusted to take a page to completion with no fixes necessary, then we will take a step back and let you get on with it.
  • Contents boxes are automatically generated when there are four or more sections on the page. You don't have to worry about them.
  • No, places don't have infoboxes.

David (talk) 13:18, July 3, 2019 (UTC) Little Bez is a guest character from one of the latest two episodes. Just to correct myself here I meant Little Baz not Bez sorry I read Bez on my character list finding site it seems. Also I have done all that I can do at the moment as I do not have the best access to images and nor do I have the ability to easily make List Of Appearences off of an IOS device. I believe I have done all that I can do since the last fix on DC Ahmadi that I can do, unless done as a fandom user on another device if that is allowed for the LOA. The only other thing that I can think of doing is adding the date of the last episode which is also the first for most of them. Thanks again. Grandpa Lo68 (talk) 17:49, July 3, 2019 (UTC)

If I'm reading your message rightly, you seem to be saying that it's impossible to create a page on this character because we don't know his occupation? Why? The fields in the infobox are included only if we have that information (you should know - you've made enough of them!), so in this case we would just leave it blank. As regards the actor's IMDB, that is completely irrelevant to the character page. We'll have our own article for Ralph Lewis with a link to his IMDB if he has one. Really, I think you're just inventing problems now!
 
I've reviewed your articles and they still have many problems (I'll put aside the lack of images):
A few others are only in a good state because either Karen, Carterboi or myself have rewritten them from scratch. We could do the same to the rest, but the whole point of asking you not to create more new pages was to stop you in your tracks, and encourage you to re-read your earlier work and notice these things for yourself. The fact that you believe the articles are all good now - as you said earlier today on my talk page - proves that either you haven't checked them over or you think this standard is good enough. If I was to say go ahead and create more pages, would we be here this time next week with another messy 21 articles which the admins have to go through with a fine toothcomb? We don't have unlimited free time, and yet we have a reputation to upkeep so we cannot simply ignore them. Therein lies the problem. Thus far we have been lenient towards you - in particular with our rules on spelling and grammar - because you are well-intentioned and respectful. Now, sadly I must enforce a longer ban as per section 12 of the Manual of style on deletions and blocking. David (talk) 21:14, July 4, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing these up, I was about to start sorting these. Once I had attempted to link Cardiologist I was blocked again. I cannot sort these issues unless I am unbanned, I'm relatively sure that you understand this. Also until Geoffs accusations JD and Jamie were not written by me. Thank you. Grandpa Lo68 (talk) 21:20, July 4, 2019 (UTC) I would like to work with you to sort these issues ASAP however I hope you understand that the block stops that, also just to note I'm fairly sure Gary said the name Carl on the phone in the rovers toilets, so I did not confuse Carl and Ike. I think autocorrect may be responsible for the Jamie and JD mistakes tensing is down to me, Ahmadi has good grammar and I do not feel that the tense changes, much like Carly does not. Cardiologist is a page that I had forgotten that I had even made until you brought it up, Suki Waters is but a minor mistake, and Mike Porter I could easily fix if I were unbanned. I would rather sorting these myself, to save you and the admins time but first I would need unbanning, also it says five mistakes on the manual of style, no way did I make five spelling or grammar mistakes on any articles . Also a year seems fairly unreasonable. Also access to the full site is hard on IOS so can I be let off of LOAs too? Thank you for reading, and apologies again. Well I mean I could do the ones that were not cleaned up. Also although I noticed its 6 months not a year I still deem that highly unreasonable, I feel the most reasonable for this would be a week. In 3 months time I will be too busy to make messy pages (joke, I hope to make future ones better) so I'd like to use the time running up to then to do so, along with fixing pages that were not cleaned up as well.Grandpa Lo68 (talk) 12:33, July 5, 2019 (UTC) Well I have noticed now the only ones left not done are Carl, Ike, Ahmadi, and Suki Waters it seems yes I had the tenses messed up, and I did no realise on them. I will admit that however, the only mistakes were one or two in spelling on Jamie and JD. As stated before I will sort them if unblocked, to give you, the admins, and carterboi the time to make the pages that you would like to make. Apologies again and thank you for reading this note. Grandpa Lo68 (talk) 16:15, July 5, 2019 (UTC)


Hi Grandpa Lo68, I have sorted out the tenses on the Jamie/JD pages now and rewritten the Mike Porter page as well, so you don't need to make any essential changes to those now as far as I can see. Carterboi33 (talk) 16:22, July 5, 2019 (UTC)

Grandpa Lo68, the problem isn't so much the articles themselves - they're easily fixed - it's the fact that you can't see the problems with them until they're pointed out to you. Monitoring and cleaning up after you would take up too much of our time (checking your pages last night took well over an hour). David (talk) 18:21, July 5, 2019 (UTC)

I could happily do the essential changes though and search for them and take that hour however, also thank you carterboi. Just to note you said be more vigilant with future pages too last time I was banned, however first I need vigilance with past ones? I can assure you that after you pointed past ones out I can be more vigilant. However I cannot show this unless the block is decreased, or unless I am unblocked. You also stated that they were not high priority nor were they essential so I stand by my belief that I should be unbanned to sort these issues. If decreased or unblocked I can sort them myself giving you time to do other things, please think about giving me another chance for stupid mistakes caused by rushing pages also can you add to my talk page, as IOS does not quite give the full site and when talk pages get this low down it is very hard to see what is being typed by myself,so that's why my talk page spelling is bad at times. This also makes LOAs (such as DC Ahmadi range from difficult to impossible to complete), so can you also please consider putting aside a lack of LOAs when necessary too? Again though I can only do so if unbanned, and can you consider making it shorter as 6 months is unreasonable, and by shorter I mean between a day and seven days. Well I ask for a decrease if you are keeping me banned of course by the way. Many apologies and thanks once again. Grandpa Lo68 (talk) 21:08, July 5, 2019 (UTC) Why is Shona's page Shona Platt? Shona and David are not married, I think they are engaged, and when engaged a woman keeps her previous surname, only when married does it change. I do not think Connor realised the name change so they did not change the page name back. I believe it was renamed by Lost112, I would sort it myself however the ban stops me doing so. Thank you. Grandpa Lo68 (talk) 17:50, July 6, 2019 (UTC)

That was vandalism. It's now been reverted. Sam Talk 21:04, July 6, 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the fix, I would recommend locking or keeping an eye upon the page in future. I still stand by my belief that it was Lost112 that is and should be responsible and held accountable for the vandalism. Also on a final note, you are very much welcome. Grandpa Lo68 (talk) 21:27, July 6, 2019 (UTC) There is a mistake on the penultimate paragraph for the protected Nathan Curtis page it should say was but says she iwas. Also on another note was Nathan's prison ever recorded or would it just be speculation to believe that he was also being held in Highfield Prison? I would copy and paste it but it's too low down for an IOS device to allow me to do so. Grandpa Lo68 (talk) 10:54, July 7, 2019 (UTC)

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