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: Definitely. I was holding off creating this discussion myself as it is highly likely that Grace Vickers and George Shuttleworth will reach 50 appearances this week and, as those two seem like no-brainers to promote too, I was thinking that it could be easier for Karen (or whoever does the updates) to do them all at once. [[User:RadMatter|RadMatter]] ([[User talk:RadMatter|talk]]) 16:49, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
 
: Definitely. I was holding off creating this discussion myself as it is highly likely that Grace Vickers and George Shuttleworth will reach 50 appearances this week and, as those two seem like no-brainers to promote too, I was thinking that it could be easier for Karen (or whoever does the updates) to do them all at once. [[User:RadMatter|RadMatter]] ([[User talk:RadMatter|talk]]) 16:49, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
 
:: Grace hit 50 appearances tonight. Potentially she and Glory could receive an upgrade together? [[User:RadMatter|RadMatter]] ([[User talk:RadMatter|talk]]) 20:22, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 
:: Grace hit 50 appearances tonight. Potentially she and Glory could receive an upgrade together? [[User:RadMatter|RadMatter]] ([[User talk:RadMatter|talk]]) 20:22, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
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Rebecca Hopkins/Anthony Stephens

I recently created list of appearances pages for these two characters. Rebecca is currently regular and Anthony guest (I created one for Anthony as he appeared in 50+ eps). I think that Rebecca could possibly be demoted as she appeared from December 1999 - June 2000, before returning briefly in December. She also appeared in an ongoing storyline and never lived in the street. Anthony on the other hand maybe promoted as he appeared for a year (July 2000 - 2001), and also lived at No.12. Thoughts? Notdoppler 17:18, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

I think the sheer number of episodes they appeared, if for no other reason, in makes them regulars.--Jtomlin1uk 09:40, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
Fair enough, but then Frank Foster has surpassed both their episode counts and is still guest. There's also Dave Smith, but his appearances weren't all together. Maybe definitely regular if they hit 100 episodes (except people like Dave)? Notdoppler 19:37, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

I would move Anthony but I'd need to place him as credited! I still think that Rebecca should be guest as she played out in a similar fashion to how Frank Foster has (one storyline - although prolonged!). Notdoppler 18:47, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

For Anthony you can find the cast order on ITV Source. I agree about Rebecca being a guest. David 16:34, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
I have moved Anthony in the episode pages for which a cast list is available on ITN, although I could only find a handful. However, there are none I can find on there with cast lists for episodes with Rebecca. Is there any way of accessing them easier, or are they just not on there? If so, how can I get hold of the source for the episode cast lists as the cast lists in question have clearly been filled in on this site? Notdoppler 17:42, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
I'm going to use the corrie.net recaps to make an "educated guess" on where they should be, or at least Rebecca for now. Notdoppler 18:01, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

Frank Foster

Has Frank Foster left yet? Is there any indication he's leaving in the next few weeks or is his storyline being dragged out? David 18:29, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

Based on this source, Frank definitely hasn't left. [1] Also, his future is uncertain and if he is still around in the New Year we should probably promote him to regular. By then he will have made 100+ appearances anyway. Notdoppler 23:47, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
Bear in mind that a problem in doing that is that you have to place him in the regular cast in the same position as he was credited on screen - we do prefer our cast credits to be in the original transmission order.--Jtomlin1uk 09:36, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
We can always use IMDB or for more accuracy the cast credits. But he may even be gone before that and still be deemed a guest! Notdoppler 09:40, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

I'm starting to think Frank could be moved to regular now, even though he's set to be killed off, as he has surpassed the 100 episodes mark and has been in it for a year now. Thoughts? Notdoppler 22:14, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Agreed. When he tried to rape Maria I thought he'd be out the door in a few weeks! I guess I was wrong. David 13:16, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Adam Barlow

I feel that Sam Robertson as Adam Barlow should remain regular, but Iain De Caestecker in the role should be guest because he appeared as Adam irregularly during his time in the role. Thoughts? Notdoppler 17:10, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

No, our usual convention is that once a regular, always a regular.--Jtomlin1uk 12:11, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
No I meant just one of the actors - i.e. Linus Roache as Peter Barlow is guest is he not? Notdoppler 14:42, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
My understanding is that the regular/guest status is applied to the character rather than a specific actor who is playing the role. Therefore, Adam Barlow would remain as regular cast. --Karen2310 17:53, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
Would that apply to Peter Barlow's several short-term actors then? Notdoppler 18:23, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
In my opinion yes. The character of Peter Barlow was credited in regular cast as far back as Christopher Dormer in 1970. --Karen2310 18:34, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
Hmm, this is a tricky one. Isn't the actor the guest artiste though, not the character? And by that I don't mean that a regular actor who has previously appeared in a minor role should be listed as regular in all cases (i.e. Andy Whyment playing a minor role a few years before Kirk, obviously guest where necessary). Also, if it's the character that matters, why were all short-term actors playing a main character listed as guests in the first place? Notdoppler 18:56, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
It is a tricky one but I think the safest default is to take the position of the character, rather the actor playing them. As regards the last point of your post, sometimes we just don't know when a minor character is going to become a regular!!--Jtomlin1uk 14:34, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

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Okay, and in regards to the minor character becoming regulars bit you are definitely right there (Not to give too much away, but I can think of one example of a past minor character who is reappearing and I'm thinking of provisionally listing as regular when they return - Beth (2011 character)). Notdoppler 06:52, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

Matt Carter

I'm considering demoting this character back to guest cast because it has been announced that his ex-girlfriend is to appear on screen and as a result Tina will dump him. And, as David the Wavid said a while back, he may go back to the sidelines. Thoughts? Notdoppler 09:22, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Wait and bit and see what develops. I'll save having to change it again should the "announcement" prove untrue - so many of them are!--Jtomlin1uk 15:03, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Kirsty Soames

Kirsty seems to be sticking around. Regular or guest? She seems to be integrated into the street now and the actresses latest blog reveals that she is to move in with Tyrone/Tommy/Tina. Notdoppler 11:44, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

I'm going to move her. Wouldn't take much to move her back if need be anyway. Notdoppler 11:46, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

Sam Tindall

I recently created a LoA page for this character, but it seems he was a recurring character. Can we demote him to guest? Notdoppler 15:07, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

I'd say he was recurring. David 15:10, November 28, 2011 (UTC)
I'm actually suprised that his number of appearances is as low as it is. I remember him being in the programme a lot in the mid to late 1980s. I also recall him being a guest on This is your Life for Bill Waddington in 1986 and he was also interviewed for TV Times. For these reasons, I'm loathe to say that he should be a guest.--Jtomlin1uk 15:14, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

I've moved him in the episodes where he is the only guest actor, as we'll need confirmation about where he should go in the guest cast section for episodes where there are other guest actors. Notdoppler 15:26, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

I've done a brief check and all of the verified cast lists we have for Sam seem to be on the Network DVD's - the others are TV Times which rarely match the order of what was on screen. I'd therefore move all the rest as well.--Jtomlin1uk 15:43, November 28, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, I'll just guess the order as per the plot. Then his ordering will be confirmed later, as will many others. Notdoppler 15:47, November 28, 2011 (UTC)
I've moved him accordingly, and noticed a pattern with the cast lists probably from TV Times, which seem to have the regular actors in a particular order, with the same actors generally appearing on the list in the same place each time. Notdoppler 16:41, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Wilf Starkey

I'm also considering promoting this character to regular, as having just created his LoA page he appeared in almost every episode between his first and last appearance. He was also a member of the Rovers staff for some months. Although this time it would be even harder to know where to place him in the regular cast sections. Notdoppler 18:37, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Sean Skinner

A character who appeared in the mid-1990s so we're only now getting a fuller picture of how often he appeared. So far we have:

  • 1994 - 13 appearances
  • 1995 - 30 appearances (with a gap between April and November)
  • 1996 - 6 appearances (but the year is less than half completed with cast lists)
  • 1997 - 23 appearances

I've marked him as a guest, but John has marked him as a regular. David 14:59, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Brian Packham and Beth Tinker

Any objections to these characters being upgraded to regular? David 10:03, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

No objections here. --Karen2310 10:18, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Phil Jennings

63 appearances between September 1990 and July 1991. Now he's a guest but I think that's enough for a regular? David 15:29, May 2, 2012 (UTC)

Any opinions on this? David 14:04, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
With the number of appearances (and looking deeper, a fair-sized run of consecutive episodes) I'd agree with regular. --Karen2310 15:12, May 17, 2012 (UTC)

Paul Kershaw

Reading this article [2] it doesn't sound like Paul is going anywhere anytime soon. Should he be upgraded to regular? --Anjojo 23:14, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

I'm not as up-to-date on the current going-on's as I should be. Is Paul now living at No. 11 with Eileen? --Karen2310 09:08, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
Yep. I thought he was leaving when Lesley died but he's still there. Regular? David 15:07, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

Jackie Dobbs

65 eps, most in 1998/9 some in the late 2000’s. Thoughts? Also, opinions on Sean Skinner as per David’s piece above. My opinion (despite what I might have done previously) is that Jackie is guest whereas Sean in permanent.--Jtomlin1uk 08:28, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Again I agree with this.... taking into consideration also that Jackie's highest run of consecutive appearances in any given year is 8, and that was while she and Deirdre were incarcerated. --Karen2310 09:04, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
I never realised Jackie had so few appearances. Yes, I'd say guest for her. I still think Sean Skinner is a guest though, much like how I see Dr Carter as a guest even though he's appeared since 2010, as both appear when there's a story need for them, which is a handful of times a year (although there is a period early 1997 where Sean appeared more frequently - hmmm). David 15:07, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
I wondered about Jackie a while back, but realised that since the actress was fired from the show, the character was planned to stay long-term, but left sooner than expected? This indicates regular to me. Notdoppler (talk) 22:30, October 21, 2012 (UTC)
Actually is more important than intention, in this case.--Jtomlin1uk (talk) 08:42, October 22, 2012 (UTC)
I see your point. I guess if a character was introduced and was planned to stay long-term, but only appeared for two episodes as the actor/actress died suddenly, they would have to be deemed a guest (there would probably be a re-cast, but I think you get my point). Notdoppler (talk) 16:16, October 24, 2012 (UTC)
Yep, I see what you mean. Jackie is a very difficult one to decide on!!--Jtomlin1uk (talk) 17:39, October 24, 2012 (UTC)
In regards to Sean, I agree with David in that we can liken him to Dr Carter (they are similar as they are both recurring characters, both having a longer stint at some point - i.e. Matt when he was dating Tina in 2011, and Sean early 1997). However, I would say regular if only due to his late 1996-1997 stint. Still not sure about Jackie though, but my gut instinct says regular. I guess these are borderline cases and the characters are probably best being left as they are (although I've noticed Sean is still listed as guest in some episode pages) until, in the case of current characters, they get to a point where they can no longer be deemed a guest. Notdoppler (talk) 23:33, November 3, 2012 (UTC)
I think we need to decide one way or another with these characters as I've seen some pages where Jackie and Sean are listed as regular and others where they're listed as guest, and this goes against the convention of "once a regular, always a regular". Thoughts? Notdoppler (talk) 15:51, November 8, 2012 (UTC)

Mandy and Jenna Kamara

This article suggests that Mandy is a "newcomer" rather than a character brought in for a specific storyline. She's moved in with Lloyd and I believe (without giving too much away) that she is to start work at the Rovers as a chef? Also, Jenna is also becoming involved with the Websters now as well as Lloyd. Should these characters be promoted to regular, or should we wait to see how they play out first? Notdoppler (talk) 18:52, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

I think we should wait a while longer, even if they're still around until the end of the year there's a new producer coming in so things could change. David (talk) 22:59, November 3, 2012 (UTC)
Any further opinions as to whether these characters should still be considered to be guests or promoted to regular? The categories on these pages have been changed to reflect regular cast today without any consensus being reached. --Karen2310 (talk) 13:27, February 18, 2013 (UTC)
My opinion is that they are regulars now. They seem to be integrated into the cast now and it doesn't look like they're going anywhere any time soon. Also both Jenna and Mandy now live with Lloyd. Notdoppler (talk) 11:04, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

Gloria Price

Did Gloria leave for good in last night's episodes? If so, can a two month character by definition be classed as regular? Notdoppler (talk) 10:12, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

I don't know if she's coming back but if she's gone for good I'd say she's definitely a guest. We should hold off on editing the articles until we know. David (talk) 11:11, November 6, 2012 (UTC)
Ah, just found an article from a fansite saying she's back in the new year. Nothing from any major news sites like Digitalspy yet but as you say, we should hold off for now. Notdoppler (talk) 12:11, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

Summer Spellman

Time to make Summer a regular? As she has 51 appearances and lives in the street. David (talk) 21:08, January 25, 2018 (UTC)

Yep--Jtomlin1uk (talk) 21:15, January 25, 2018 (UTC)
Was going to raise the issue when I tackled the LoA pages next week. Karen2310 (talk) 22:06, January 25, 2018 (UTC)
It's settled then. David (talk) 00:07, January 26, 2018 (UTC)

Reclassification

Jude, Angie and George Appleton now seem settled in the street and Imran Habeeb is filling Todd's old role at the solicitors. All are getting up there in appearances too. Time to reclassify? David (talk) 19:19, April 19, 2018 (UTC)

Definitely! However, the first character I would personally reclassify would be Alex Neeson - out of all of the characters mentioned; Angie, Jude, George and Imran, he has had the most appearances, is related to bigger characters and has the most plans for the future of the character. Xx-connor-xX (talk) 21:10, April 19, 2018 (UTC)
Disagree on Alex Neeson. For each character we consider every actor to play the role separately and James Burrows hasn't been in the role long enough yet. David (talk) 21:12, April 23, 2018 (UTC)
In agreement with the Appletons and Imran. Will do the necessary! Karen2310 (talk) 08:42, April 26, 2018 (UTC)
Thank you Karen! Was just waiting for a consensus before rolling out the changes so you didn't have to! David (talk) 13:43, April 26, 2018 (UTC)
No worries David. I know you're exceptionally busy with the 60s episodes. Karen2310 (talk) 13:57, April 26, 2018 (UTC)

Three more characters

Any objections to upgrading Alex Neeson (specifically the James Burrows incarnation), Abi Franklin and Emma Brooker? David (talk) 19:40, July 3, 2018 (UTC)

No objections here - all of the listed characters are currently living on the Street, and have contracts for the foreseeable future (with Emma having signed a 6 month contract a few week back). I would actually add Geoff Metcalfe aswell, but he has appeared significantly less than the rest. Xx-connor-xX (talk) 20:06, July 3, 2018 (UTC)
Alex has nearly appeared 6 months and has no signs of leaving and as Connor said, Alexandra is on a 6 month contract. However I would wait on Abi though since it's only been 4 months and who knows what will happen in that remaining time. Danielroxheaps 22:24, July 3, 2018 (UTC)
Abi has been on the show since October, however she was only recently upgraded to regular cast - which means she will likely be on a six month contract too, if not a year. Xx-connor-xX (talk) 22:33, July 3, 2018 (UTC)
Yes but that hasn't been confirmed. IIRC a series producer can axe a character at any point despite the length of the contract. Considering there is a producer switch-over to occur soon we don't know who is still apart of the cast and who is not. Danielroxheaps 01:55, July 4, 2018 (UTC)
I definitely think that Alex should be a regular (I raised the issue on the talk section of his page). I would agree with Emma too since she has had her contract extended. I don't have enough information to offer an opinion about Abi, but I wouldn't object to her being upgraded to regular. Keggie (talk) 09:25, July 7, 2018 (UTC)

Ali yes, but hold the others in abeyance for the moment--Jtomlin1uk (talk) 13:00, July 16, 2018 (UTC)

Hi guys, apologies for being so late to the party as it were. I'd agree with Ali Neeson (James Burrows only) for now. Abi and Emma are both quite a fair way from notching up 50 appearances too. Karen2310 (talk) 18:34, July 19, 2018 (UTC)
That's settled then - Ali only. David (talk) 11:36, July 26, 2018 (UTC)

Time to rethink Abi?--Jtomlin1uk (talk) 08:53, September 13, 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I'd certainly agree with that Karen2310 (talk) 09:31, September 13, 2018 (UTC)
Emma as well? David (talk) 10:56, September 13, 2018 (UTC)
If we're all in agreement for both Abi and Emma, I don't mind doing all the necessary changes on them today - since I'll be working on the mid-month stats over the weekend. Karen2310 (talk) 11:06, September 13, 2018 (UTC)
I completely support Abi and Emma being upgraded - however, what about Josh? He now has 60 appearances and there doesn’t seem to be any immediate plans for him to leave. Xx-connor-xX (talk) 11:21, September 13, 2018 (UTC)
Disagree on Josh. He doesn't live or work in the street and his appearances since the end of May have been limited. Plus he's a villain who with a few exceptions don't stick around for long. David (talk) 11:48, September 13, 2018 (UTC)
I guess you’re right, although he has worked on the street. But if the character notches up over 70 appearances I will fully support their upgrading. Xx-connor-xX (talk) 12:06, September 13, 2018 (UTC)
Abi and Emma yes, Josh, no.--Jtomlin1uk (talk) 13:24, September 13, 2018 (UTC)
Just a note - Spoilers indicate that Josh will be moving into Billy's next week and will have scenes with Billy, Sean and Alya. I do think his place as a minor character should be reconsidered. Xx-connor-xX (talk) 23:26, September 16, 2018 (UTC)
We'll wait and see how it plays out first. David (talk) 11:12, September 17, 2018 (UTC)

Claudia Colby

Claudia Colby has just returned to, the actress has announced that this is a permanent return rather than a guest stint - and she has a healthy amount of appearances already. Xx-connor-xX (talk) 21:11, July 25, 2018 (UTC)

Not yet. We should never make changes on this site based on actor's statements.--Jtomlin1uk (talk) 08:00, July 26, 2018 (UTC)
Claudia has now hit over 50 episodes (currently at 53 I think) and as such she has been given her own LOA page. However, the regular users who update the minor character appearances after every episode are now avoiding updating her appearances because of this and she is also not being updated along with the rest of the main characters. As such I think she deserves upgraded to a current character. Xx-connor-xX (talk) 13:53, November 2, 2018 (UTC)
An oversight, nothing more. Certainly not a good reason to upgrade someone to regular. We should wait and see how the storyline with Maria pans out first. As Claudia doesn't live or work in the street she could disappear at any time. David (talk) 00:12, November 3, 2018 (UTC)
True, of course I wasn't basing my whole reason about upgrading her on the oversight though - she is currently interacting with a lot of different characters; Ken, Audrey, Maria, Rita, Sinead, etc. But I understand your point, and we'll have to see if she has a role on the show beyond her current storyline. Xx-connor-xX (talk) 01:23, November 3, 2018 (UTC)
Without trying to spoil anything, Lenska stated in an interview that she was scheduled to appear in 25 episodes in her latest stint, which should bring her appearance total up to 59 at the end of her contract. She also said there is "the possibility of extending" when her contract is up. Maybe a good move will be to see if she reaches over 60 appearances, and then reconsider, since she will have obviously been 'extended'? I've added the reference for convenience: http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/coronation-street/interviews/a861738/coronation-street-spoilers-rula-lenska-claudia-return-interview/ Layton4 - 14:46, 5/11/2018
I think it is time to reconsider Claudia, as it is confirmed that Rula's contract has been extended. Xx-connor-xX (talk) 01:15, January 10, 2019 (UTC)
Agreed--Jtomlin1uk (talk) 08:56, January 10, 2019 (UTC)
Agreed also, she seems to be sticking around. Layton4 - 14:06, 15/1/2019

Evelyn and Geoff

Is it maybe time to start considering Geoff Metcalfe and Evelyn Plummer as regular characters? Geoff has just surpassed 40 appearances and has a few connections to the street (Yasmeen, Tim, Faye, etc.) while Evelyn is likely to be staying with Tyrone in 2019. Any thoughts? Layton4 - 22:22, 25/12/2018

I agree with both. Xx-connor-xX (talk) 15:03, December 26, 2018 (UTC)
Also agreed with both. David (talk) 22:10, December 26, 2018 (UTC)
Both now moved over with all of the necessary done. Karen2310 (talk) 23:53, December 26, 2018 (UTC)
Thank you Karen! David (talk) 11:46, December 27, 2018 (UTC)

Paul Foreman and Paula Martin

Paul is a while from reaching 50+ appearances, however he lives on the street and has a steady job (for now at least) and a family member on the show. Xx-connor-xX (talk) 14:34, March 16, 2019 (UTC)

All the same we'll wait until he hits the magic number. David (talk) 21:21, March 16, 2019 (UTC)
Paul has now reached 50+ appearances and looks set to continue as a regular character, also Paula Martin is extremely close to 50 herself. Xx-connor-xX (talk) 23:49, July 1, 2019 (UTC)
Paul is definitley a regular character, he was announced as such when he was first introduced as Gemma's brother, I see no reason why we shouldn't count him as one on here.  Carterboi33 (talk) 00:12, July 2, 2019 (UTC)
Forgot to add although it isn't as clear cut as Paul, I think Paula should also be classified as a regular character. Carterboi33 (talk) 00:21, July 2, 2019 (UTC)
Paul has been added to the regular character section in the latest episode pages, so I assume a consensus has been reached? Xx-connor-xX (talk) 18:57, July 4, 2019 (UTC)
Most probably an oversight as feedback is posted here..... but not to worry, I'll reverse my change now. Karen2310 (talk) 19:11, July 4, 2019 (UTC)
My bad! I forgot Paul was still classified as a guest as he hasn't appeared much lately. I'd support a promotion for him but not yet for Paula. David (talk) 19:32, July 4, 2019 (UTC)
If we're all agreed, then I'll implement the changes/additions for Paul a bit later this morning. Karen2310 (talk) 08:06, July 5, 2019 (UTC)
Paula has now appeared in 50 episodes and her future on the show has been confirmed (she has several storylines lined up). Xx-connor-xX (talk) 21:08, July 17, 2019 (UTC)
I think Paula should be considered a regular character. Carterboi33 (talk) 01:27, July 27, 2019 (UTC)
Back for three months, living in the street, ongoing storylines - suits me! David (talk) 10:22, July 28, 2019 (UTC)
Ones to watch for the future might be Tyler and Vicky. They are obviously not regular characters at the moment but have made a significiant amount of reccuring appearances and if they remain beyond the conclusion of the current Robert storyline then they might be reconsidered. Carterboi33 (talk) 13:07, July 30, 2019 (UTC)

Cast cards

I think, when we are considering whether a character is regular or not, we should also look towards the official cast cards given out by the production team. All the actors who play characters considered to be regular on the soap are given cards so that they gave send autographed copies to their fans. So far the only actor who has had a cast card released over the past few years (or potentially ever) but hasn't been recognised as a regular character by this site is Ryan Clayton who played Josh Tucker - not including Peter Ash's Paul Foreman and Stirling Gallacher's Paula Martin who recieved cards with the foreknowledge that they eventually will be regular characters. I think this could possibly open up a debate about changing Josh's status on this site. Xx-connor-xX (talk) 14:06, April 19, 2019 (UTC)

After a ton of searching the only other person with an official cast card that I could find to not be credited as regular on this site is Oliver Mellor - and again I would question why we don't recognise Matt Carter as a regular character when the production team did. Xx-connor-xX (talk) 14:19, April 19, 2019 (UTC)

Brad Armstrong

This might have already been discussed but should the character of Brad not be classed as a main character as like for example Morgan Middleton or currently Bertie Osbourne, he was the son of two main characters and was also born on screen even though his total appearances are under 50. I might have overlooked something but I can't see any other reason why Brad is classified differently to these other Corrie babies. Carterboi33 (talk) 19:25, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

Brad is listed in guest cast because the character's duration was less than three calendar months. Karen2310 (talk) 06:22, August 19, 2019 (UTC)
Ah I didn't realise that, thanks. Carterboi33 (talk) 12:08, August 19, 2019 (UTC)

Morgan Middleton

An old case but should Morgan be downgraded to guest cast? Compare with Susie Price - 30-odd appearances, born just before her mother left the programme, and she's classified as a guest. David (talk) 21:39, August 22, 2019 (UTC)

There’s people with less isn’t there? For example; Sue Clayton and Vera Hopkins. Xx-connor-xX (talk) 05:20, August 23, 2019 (UTC)
I’d personally be more inclined to raise Susie to a regular - as she was active for more than three calendar months and involved with several big storylines. Also, she’s still mentioned regularly to this day. Xx-connor-xX (talk) 05:24, August 23, 2019 (UTC)
I'd agree with the former. Karen2310 (talk) 15:54, August 23, 2019 (UTC)
I'll make the change. In the cases of Sue and Vera, the number of appearances is beside the point as they were part of families who were all regulars. Susie is definitely not a regular as she was part of Eva's exit storyline and never meant as an ongoing character. David (talk) 09:19, August 24, 2019 (UTC)
Could someone confirm Morgan's placement in the cast roll of 4363 please as I don't have that episode? David (talk) 09:59, August 24, 2019 (UTC)
Done. Karen2310 (talk) 10:15, August 24, 2019 (UTC)

Bernie Winter / Nina Lucas

Similar to how the Bailey family were added to the List of current characters as soon as they appeared, due to having been "confirmed beyond reasonable doubt" to be new regulars, both Bernie Winter and Nina Lucas have been confirmed by the official Corrie website as being new regulars.

Bernie: https://www.itv.com/coronationstreet/news/casting-news-jane-hazlegrove-bernie-winter

Nina: https://www.itv.com/coronationstreet/news/meet-roy-croppers-niece-nina

Xx-connor-xX (talk) 21:37, November 11, 2019 (UTC)

While it's likely that Nina will be sticking around, nothing in the link above suggests she's long-term. We'll wait and see like we usually do. With Bernie I think we should wait until the Kel storyline plays out. David (talk) 18:58, November 16, 2019 (UTC)
To be fair, nothing in the original article for the Bailey family suggested them being long-term (https://www.itv.com/coronationstreet/news/exclusive-new-family-ed-aggie-michael-james-bailey). Both just tell how the characters will be moving onto the street. Xx-connor-xX (talk) 22:35, November 16, 2019 (UTC)
Just want to say that I completely understand your verdict, but just want to be completely sure how we know that someone is "confirmed beyond reasonable doubt" to be new regulars - because I see the Bailey family, Bernie and Nina as having all being introduced intended to be regulars (all the news articles relating to them have announced them as regulars). Xx-connor-xX (talk) 22:54, November 16, 2019 (UTC)

Bernie has now hit 50 appearances. Time for a promotion? David (talk) 18:57, January 18, 2020 (UTC)

a lot of sites are reporting that she will be leaving next week, but may be back at a later date. MIKEISTKRIEG (talk) 19:41, January 18, 2020 (UTC)
With Bernie's return, I believe she should now be considered a regular. David (talk) 22:12, March 24, 2020 (UTC)
Agreed, David Carterboi33 (talk) 01:38, March 25, 2020 (UTC)
Yes--Jtomlin1uk (talk) 09:00, March 25, 2020 (UTC)

Shouldn't be regulars?

Following Morgan Middleton's demotion from regular to guest, I have been thinking about which other characters that this site classes as regulars wouldn't make the cut today. I found quite a few characters who were either involved in very few appearances, or were on the show for less than a year, they include; Umed Alahan (42 appearances / 8 months), Diggory Compton (49 appearances / 13 months), Scooter Makuna (50 appearances / 11 months), Doreen Fenwick (51 appearances / 10 months), Tara Mandal (54 appearances / 8 months),Ronnie Clayton (56 appearances / 9 months), Jesse Chadwick (58 appearances / 11 months), Poppy Morales (60 appearances / 7 months), Phil Nail (60 appearances / 8 months), Jessie Jackson (63 appearances / 12 months), Mick Hopwood (66 appearances / 11 months), Anthony Stephens (67 appearances / 11 months), Aidan Critchley (70 appearances / 10 months), Debs Brownlow (74 appearances / 8 months) and Luke Strong (78 appearances / 9 months).

I don't believe that a single one of the characters listed above would be classed as regulars on this site by today's standards, as there are examples of characters who have made more appearances than some of them over a longer time. If the reason that some of these characters are considered regular is because they have been "involved in three or more storylines" then they are matched by the likes of; Nathan Curtis (59 appearances / 10 months) who's storylines have included the grooming of Bethany Platt, abuse of Shona Ramsay and subsequent court trial, Josh Tucker (75 appearances / 12 months) who's storylines have included his rape of David Platt, relationship with Alya Nazir and his return storyline this year, and Vicky Jefferies (50 appearances / 12 months) and Tyler Jefferies (45 appearances / 12 months) who's storylines have included the bullying of Simon Barlow, the pregnancy of Amy Barlow and the affair with Robert Preston. Xx-connor-xX (talk) 20:06, November 17, 2019 (UTC)

The criteria hasn't changed. Morgan Middleton should never have been classified as a regular in the first place as he was part of Fiona's exit storyline. If we seem overly cautious about promoting ongoing characters it's because they can leave at any time possibly leaving us having to rollback dozens of edits. With the names in your last post, it's interesting that two of them are villains. Villains are created with a shelf-life in mind which is why we don't consider them regulars unless they either start out as normal characters and turn into villains or become integrated into street life for an extended period. Hence why characters such as Jon Lindsay and Jez Quigley are not regulars but Pat Phelan and Maya Sharma are. Vicky and Tyler are possibles for promotion but as their storyline seems to be wrapping up anyway, I suggest we wait and see how it plays out. I admit I'm put off by the fact that they don't live in Weatherfield or anywhere near, with their only link to the street being through Robert. That just doesn't suggest regular to me. David (talk) 22:20, November 17, 2019 (UTC)
What makes those listed above regulars? Most, if not all, wouldn't be promoted today. Xx-connor-xX (talk) 23:16, November 17, 2019 (UTC)
Anyone in particular? David (talk) 18:30, November 21, 2019 (UTC)
Just the fifteen above, especially those with less appearances than Vicky (52). I want to get a better understanding of how to class regulars on this site (so I’m not continuously opening discussions on those not included) but the fifteen I listed don’t seem like they would be ranked as regulars if they were on the show today. Xx-connor-xX (talk) 18:48, November 21, 2019 (UTC)
OK, taking those four: 1) Umed both lived and worked in Coronation Street throughout his eight months in the programme, 2) Diggory ran one of the main businesses in the street for over a year, 3) Scooter lived at No.8 (regularly, not just as part of a storyline) and appeared for 11 months, 4) Doreen also lived in the street and had several distinct storylines. With Vicky, apart from her never living in the street and only working there very briefly you have to consider that each stint in the show is considered separately when deciding whether someone is a regular or guest. It isn't just decided by the total number of appearances otherwise someone like Dave Smith would be unquestionably a regular. David (talk) 21:15, November 21, 2019 (UTC)
Why would someone like Lauren Wilson not be considered regular? Throughout the majority of her time on the show she both worked and resided on the street, was introduced as a family member and appeared for six months. Xx-connor-xX (talk) 00:56, November 22, 2019 (UTC)

Can we please drop this tedious discussion? There are over 7000 wanted pages on this site requiring work as well as goodness knows how many with stub tags and the rest. This constant revising of past decisions detracts from that and is starting to look obsessional. In short, we will never reach a point where we have a fully working decision tree with yes/no answers that leads to a conclusion. The grey zone is very big and some answers will always counteract previous answers. Stop this now please.--Jtomlin1uk (talk) 10:56, November 22, 2019 (UTC)

There is no need to be rude, I am genuinely interested and David is helping me instead of just being passive aggressive. And he’s helped me a lot, I’m pretty sure I get it now. I think your obsession is butting in with put-downs when your opinion isn’t wanted. Xx-connor-xX (talk) 13:12, November 22, 2019 (UTC)
Hey, I'm an admin and run this site - I will offer my opinion when I deem it right and proper and, for your information, I cleared my intervention with David so don't hide under his coat-tails. A word of wise advice to you - consider your response to this post VERY carefully. My finger is poised over the "block" button and once pressed it will not be redacted....--Jtomlin1uk (talk) 15:04, November 22, 2019 (UTC)
Honestly, this is a disgrace. Threaten me all you want, but you'll struggle hard to come up with a comment for the blocking. I have literally stated my intentions as to why I'm asking all these questions - so that I don't continue to waste my time, and that of others, raising a discussion about certain characters (like I did for Matt Carter, Bernie, Nina, and more). I had no idea that David felt that way as I have actually found my discussions with him useful and he has came across far friendlier than you, it disappoints me that he has allowed you to "intervene" when there was no need whatsoever. Xx-connor-xX (talk) 15:17, November 22, 2019 (UTC)
It boggles my mind that not long after I was chastised for not raising a discussion about the relationships sections, I am now being chastised for raising a discussion about other things. Xx-connor-xX (talk) 15:20, November 22, 2019 (UTC)

It's the nature of the discussion - going chapter and verse on 15 characters (!!!!) where decisions were made years ago, sometimes after a lot of thought where nothing was absolutely clear-cut and gut reactions which can't be wholly explained had to be taken, and raising constant "whatifery" points as a result. No issue with a new character at all, but going back over old ground is just a waste of all of our time. Please just move on and fill in the 7000+ gaps on this site instead. --Jtomlin1uk (talk) 15:42, November 22, 2019 (UTC)

Just read the first of your two comments where you didn't take my advice. You're blocked for good.--Jtomlin1uk (talk) 15:51, November 22, 2019 (UTC)

Formalising this process

Can I suggest that going forward we leave the regular/guest debate for each character until they hit 50 appearances, with exceptions only being made for clear cut cases such as the Bailey family? David (talk) 13:29, November 23, 2019 (UTC)

Agreed in principle but with six episodes a week nowadays should the 50 cut-off (which was fine for the 1960s to the 1990s-ish) be higher?--Jtomlin1uk (talk) 15:33, November 23, 2019 (UTC)
I don't think that makes much difference, Bernie Winter for example is on 38 appearances and has been in the programme since July. Say it's late December/early January when she hits 50 appearances, that's enough of a probationary period. David (talk) 19:21, November 23, 2019 (UTC)

Nina Lucas

Hi everyone - I know she hasn't quite reached the 50 episode mark yet, but I think it may be time to consider Nina Lucas as a regular character? She's Roy's niece, living with him, working in the café, and now even getting involved in Asha's storyline. Any thoughts? Layton4 - 19:41, 9/5/2020


I agree for all the reasons above and by coincidence was going to post something similar on here. There is every indication that she has been introduced as a regular character. Even if she isn't upgraded until she hits 50 appearances, maybe we could agree in advance to do so? Carterboi33 (talk) 20:45, May 9, 2020 (UTC)

Agree with the latter suggestion. Now that we've established a procedure we should follow it but my vote is that Nina is certainly a regular. David (talk) 21:23, May 9, 2020 (UTC)
Now that Nina has crossed the 50 appearances barrier, I vote to upgrade her to regular. David (talk) 16:29, June 19, 2020 (UTC)
Agreed. Karen2310 (talk) 16:31, June 19, 2020 (UTC)

Ray Crosby

Has now passed 50 appearances, 14 months in the show and owns one of the leading businesses in the programme - a clear regular in my book. David (talk) 08:52, September 18, 2020 (UTC)

Support this. He’s said to take centre stage for the 60th and has been given one of those promotional photos that all regulars get. PoolsideJazz (talk) 10:07, September 18, 2020 (UTC)
Agreed.--Jtomlin1uk (talk) 10:52, September 18, 2020 (UTC)
Echoed. Karen2310 (talk) 12:34, September 18, 2020 (UTC)
Also Agreed Carterboi33 (talk) 15:18, September 18, 2020 (UTC)
I'll make the change. David (talk) 17:03, September 18, 2020 (UTC)

George Shuttleworth

While I am completely aware of the rule that discussions for new regular characters start with them reaching the 50 episode milestone, I think that there should be the occasional exception when there is confirmation from an official source.

This happened today with Tony Maudsley's character, George Shuttleworth. The official Coronation Street site posted a picture which was stated to contain "the first seven of the current cast to join the soap alongside the most recent seven actors to have appeared on screen as a regular cast member".

Underneath a comment further elaborated on what a regular cast member is; "Regular cast member denotes a member of cast who is on screen and on a 12 month contract at the time of the photo". KennethBenidorm (talk) 00:25, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

No. Painful (very, painful!) experience has taught us that once we start making exceptions to rules, people come along with protracted discussions about making other exceptions. It is far simpler, easier and tidier to keep to the rules. In time, he will be added as a regular and all will be well! Jtomlin1uk
Thabks for the reply, it was just that the announcement above about there being exceptions for “clear cut cases” made me think that George could qualify. KennethBenidorm (talk) 18:16, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Alina Pop, Sophie Webster and Paula Martin

Here are my arguments for Alina becoming a regular character, and Sophie / Paula being downgraded:

Alina: Lives on the street, has been on the show for over a year (albeit with a long break - but has been back since February) she also has 50 appearances now.

Sophie: She has been gone for 14 months now, and the actress is pregnant again so will not be on the show until at least autumn 2021. There was a discussion on her talkpage last month where everyone seemed in agreement to the demotion.

Paula: The actress who plays Paula took another role earlier in the year and since then her Coronation Street role was severely limited (the character has only appeared twice in almost 10 months). Last week several articles were release which stated that Paula had left the show. The character was originally planned to be heavily involved in the Geoff / Yasmeen trial, however due to the actress' commitments to Casualty the character was cut (with reference to Paula having "signed off work" for three months airing in Monday's installment).

While I think the first two are pretty open and shut cases, I'm unsure about Paula myself. RadMatter (talk) 00:50, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Agree with the first two but as there has been no official comment on Paula it's too soon to say. For all we know Brooke Vincent's indefinite maternity leave has had a knock-on effect on Paula being retained but we shall see. David (talk) 20:48, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
Agree with David.Jtomlin1uk (talk) 21:44, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
Just a minor update on Paula - the actress posted on Twitter about Corrie's 60th in past tense; "What a pleasure it was working with you and all your lovely folk" and upon being asked if she was returning replied "Not at the mo".[3] Not sure if this is enough confirmation, but wanted to keep the discussion updated. RadMatter (talk) 12:23, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Ravi Desai

I was advised to create a discussion about this character many months ago but never got round to it, so here it is;

The character of Ravi Desai should be credited as a regular. Regardless of the fact that this character was axed after seven months, which is not much shorter than other axed regulars the Claytons and Umed Alahan, this character was introduced as part of the first Asian family, owned premises on the street and was involved in more than three storylines. The character was also referenced over twenty years after his arrival. PoolsideJazz (talk) 01:46, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Disagree. The character is just too incidental to be considered. Besides, I'd much rather time and effort be put into creating the 7000+ "wanted" pages on this site than going back and amending pages which have been around for over a decade without causing any problems.Jtomlin1uk (talk) 09:25, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
I have seen the discussion above that got rather out of hand and I do not intent to start questioning every single minor character. Ravi Desai is the only character that I believe has been incorrectly identified by this site - the 'Coronation Street in 1999' page identifies the character as having been introduced as a long-running character who was ultimately axed after only seven months. I think that he was definitely a regular during his time on the show, and again I would heavily liken him to the likes of Harry Clayton. PoolsideJazz (talk)
I think that Ravi Desai and Maggie Redman are the only two that I currently feel are misplaced as recurring. I think that Maggie's 1992 - 1993 stint was extremely regular. From October to December 1992 she was only ever absent for two consecutive episodes, then she appeared regularly throughout January to April as well. RadMatter (talk) 12:42, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

January 2021

The Coronation Street cast list on the official website was updated today.

Several characters were removed including; Emily Bishop, Geoff Metcalfe, Liz McDonald, Norris Cole, Moira Pollock, Paula Martin and Sophie Webster. I think that this proves that this site was correct in the demotion of Emily, Sophie and of course Geoff, to former character status. And seemingly concludes the discussions regarding Norris, Moira and Paula.

The characters added today were; Corey Brent, Daisy Midgeley, Elaine Jones, Grace Vickers, Kelly Neelan, and another character who hasn't appeared on-screen yet so I shall not mention them to avoid spoilers. These characters are the ones to monitor, when they reach 50 appearances I think they are worthy candidates for an upgrade. RadMatter (talk) 20:02, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

The official site also lists Tommy Orpington as a regular character so is not always the best source. We'll see where those characters are when they hit 50 appearances, with at least a couple of them I can't see them being around that long. David (talk) 20:35, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Agreed, the cast list is not always correct when it comes to listing newcomers - Scott Emberton had been listed for the past months but was removed in the latest update. However, they are always accurate when removing characters - Emily Bishop was removed today for the first time in five years, Rosie and Sophie Webster both lasted for long periods since their departures. RadMatter (talk) 20:38, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
One day after Norris' removal it has been announced that Malcolm Hebden has retired I think that this strengthens the fact that all characters removed yesterday were so done with the knowledge that they were officially gone. RadMatter (talk) 20:56, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

This would seem to answer the question of whether Kelly's sticking around [4]. She has passed 50 appearances as well. Time to promote her? David (talk) 11:50, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Children of regulars

I'm not here to propose anything, but I had a query about the children of regulars. Are they subjected to the same 50+ appearance rule as everyone else or are they immediately ranked? Aled, Bryn, Carys and Llio are all still hanging around the 30 appearance mark but are regulars, would Michael and Grace's baby Glory be immediately upgraded to regular when she first appears or would she have to wait until she reaches 50? PoolsideJazz (talk) 17:02, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

The Winter-Brown children are children of two regular characters. Glory is the child of a regular and a current guest character and therefore David and I, in writing new episode pages, choose to adopt a "wait and see" policy until the continuing storyline further defines the situation.Jtomlin1uk (talk) 21:25, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
Worth noting too that if it wasn't for Covid, the quads would be comfortably over 50 appearances by now. Child characters are subject to review - as JT says above, the quads were children of two regulars who as far as we knew weren't going anywhere, so we made them regulars too. Glory's place in the show isn't quite as secure. I hope that clarifies things. David (talk) 16:59, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
It does, thanks both.
This topic was a tangent on someone asking Karen about Sam Blakeman, would his place on the show as the child of two regulars not be as secure as the quads? PoolsideJazz (talk) 18:06, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
No, since we don't know how long Natasha is staying. She's a regular only by virtue of having been one in 2008-2010. He's not far off 50 anyway. David (talk) 19:45, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Kelly Neelan

It has been revealed that the actress that plays Kelly Neelan has been signed up to a permanent contract so it looks like she will be sticking around for a while (she has also appeared frequently since her return back in December). Is it time to upgrade her to a regular? NathanJohnson (talk) 12:59, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Daisy Midgeley and Corey Brent

Both of these characters have surpassed 50 appearances.

In my opinion Daisy is a no-brainer as she is related to Jenny and lives at the Rovers. Corey is the trickier one as his current status suggests that he has a shelf-life, however he has appeared regularly since January (at least twice a month), has lived on the street and has been involved in multiple storylines. He also seemingly has a long way to go as his and Kelly's trials are only set to begin. RadMatter (talk) 12:14, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Yes to Daisy, hold for Corey at the moment.Jtomlin1uk (talk) 14:34, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
If everybody is in agreement with Daisy, I can do all of the necessary "promotion" changes tomorrow. This ties in with the end of the month updates for all of the regular cast and will be the perfect time to add into the year tables etc. Karen2310 (talk) 16:15, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
I agree with Jtomlin1uk. Chocolatecake (talk) 16:49, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
Also agreed. David (talk) 20:47, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Should all regular characters have LOA pages?

At the moment there are sixteen characters who do not have an LOA page; Sue Clayton, Vera Hopkins, Martin Cheveski, Flick Khan, Harry Clayton, Bernard Butler, Andrea Clayton, Connie Clayton, Arnold Swain, Granny Hopkins, Effie Spicer, Idris Hopkins, and Aled, Carys, Llio and Bryn Winter-Brown. I propose that all these characters should have there own LOA pages even though they have significantly less than 50 appearances.

The first reason for this is so that the 'List of main character appearances' category is complete with every single regular character's appearances contained within a single category. If this is done the category will boast "all items 394" (rather than the current "all items 378") which instantly tells people the exact number of regular characters that are considered by this site (I don't think that number is shown anywhere else on this site and therefore people would have to count for themselves by going through the 'First appearances by year' categories individually).

Another reason that this change should be made is because of the fact that there is currently an inconsistency on which characters deserve their own LOA pages. Sandra Petty has an LOA page despite only having 39 appearances, whereas Andrea Clayton, Connie Clayton, Arnold Swain, Granny Hopkins, Effie Spicer and Idris Hopkins, all have more but do not have LOA pages. The LOA pages show a wealth of information which are necessary in my opinion for all regular characters such as their numbers of consecutive appearances and absences. RadMatter (talk) 12:03, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Agree that we should have greater consistency here, especially as the pages listed above use the old appearance list format. Are you able to make a start on this? David (talk) 08:11, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Sam Blakeman

Is up to 51 appearances. No sign of him leaving anytime soon. Time for a promotion? David (talk) 16:41, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

Definitely. I was holding off creating this discussion myself as it is highly likely that Grace Vickers and George Shuttleworth will reach 50 appearances this week and, as those two seem like no-brainers to promote too, I was thinking that it could be easier for Karen (or whoever does the updates) to do them all at once. RadMatter (talk) 16:49, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
Grace hit 50 appearances tonight. Potentially she and Glory could receive an upgrade together? RadMatter (talk) 20:22, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
NoJtomlin1uk (talk) 20:45, 26 July 2021 (UTC)