Category deletion

This is another page that I have an issue with. What is a villain? It's interesting that Ray Langton isn't on the list despite being in jail and his attempted rape of Lucille. Some would say Les Battersby was a villain, being seen to steal on occasion. Ken, Rita and Hayley have all done time in jail for breaking the law - are they villains? Where is the line drawn? I also have a problem in that this category crosses the line from being encyclopedic into being a bit nerdy, but perhaps that's just me. I suggest delete.--Jtomlin1uk (talk) 09:44, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

I agree. It's way too subjective.70s Fan (talk) 09:48, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

I agree. What about some of the current characters? Should Owen Armstrong be classed as a villain although he can have a nicer side at times? A lot of current characters can be mean but should they be classed as villains? A lot of them change such as David and Gary. And some characters I have noticed get listed as a villain for being ignorant or smarmy, but I don't know if that classes as being a villain.  (NathanJohnson (talk) 09:57, June 10, 2013 (UTC))

Agree with all of the above comments.. David (talk) 16:37, June 10, 2013 (UTC)
I agree!! get rid. Eppearson (talk) 16:51, June 10, 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I'm also in agreement. --Karen2310 (talk) 18:46, June 10, 2013 (UTC)
This is such an agreeable place! David (talk) 18:52, June 10, 2013 (UTC)
Just because someone's been in prison or has been convicted of a crime doesn't necessarily mean that they're bad - they just made a wrong choice. Take loveable Steve McDonald - he's been in prison for perverting the course of justice and he hasn't been all bad ever since he first appeared - a bit too cocky like Han Solo. Others like Toxic Tracy Barlow and Rabid Rob Donovan are the real baddies.Followtheyellowbrickroad (talk) 06:59, September 9, 2017 (UTC)

As you might expect, I don't agree. You may want to give the category a specific definition (e,g, "people who have committed violent offences or crimes"), but there's no way that an encyclopaedia should avoid classifying people in various ways that some readers may like to examine. Look at Wikipedia's minute categorizations, for example. I'm sure someone can stick Ray in: as I'm not familiar with the related episodes I couldn't. And I wouldn't put Hayley or Rita in, whatever the definition. -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 03:31, June 11, 2013 (UTC)
We have categories for [[:Category:Murderers|Murderers]] and Convicts which are more our style. Convicts includes most of the big villains. David (talk) 10:55, June 11, 2013 (UTC)
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