Following Joy's death, he met with Fiz Stape, who was posing as her daughter-in-law since her husband John had been posing as Colin. Ben was unaware that the real Colin had died the previous year. Fiz, referring to John, told him that "Mr. Fishwick" had had a nervous breakdown. She also told him about their premature baby Hope, and that she had a hole in the heart with a small chance of survival. Ben consoled her by saying that he and his partner had had a seven month premature baby, Victoria, who would have been 30 that year but died a week old. He also told Fiz that Colin had inherited the house and savings of John Fishwick, and that he would need Colin's bank details for the money to be transferred. He invited her to the funeral of Joy, which she attended the next day.