Forum:Ruairi - Stillbirth or Miscarriage?

Recently Ruairi McDonald was moved from the "Births" section to the "Miscarriages" section in List of births and pregnancies. Because the birth was at 23 weeks then under the legal system it would be considered a miscarriage. However, as I pointed out on Jtomlin1uk's wall, in the context of the show and this wiki, it's a bit more complicated and should be discussed further. Here is what I posted:


 * I disagree with this move. Although it was technically a miscarriage the show has emphasised that they are treating it as a stillbirth and that they want viewers to see it in the same way. This includes factors such as giving him a full name and a funeral, avoiding (from what I recall) the term "miscarriage" and actually showing him on-screen. They've even brought up the problems associated with "late miscarriage" by showing that he doesn't get a birth certificate and are essentially putting across the message that he should be given one.


 * Even if this might not seem like much of an argument, the practical issue that arises here is that Ruairi has an article on this wiki because he has been deemed notable enough to have one. He is in the "2017 births" category and is mentioned on the infoboxes of his parents and siblings. In other words we are reflecting how Corrie are treating him; as a stillborn and not a miscarriage.


 * Another big problem is that the "miscarriages" section of the "List of Births and Pregnancies" article only gives the name of the parents. Surely if Ruairi was born on-screen and has an article, he should definitely be linked to in that page. While I personally believe he sould be moved back to the "births" section, perhaps the best solution is a compromise where we create a new section called "stillbirths and late miscarriages" or something similar. The section would have a short paragraph explaining how we define "late miscarriage". Either way I think this could do with some discussion.


 * Regards--Pascal11 (talk) 18:20, February 21, 2017 (UTC)