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Rebecca Hopkins/Anthony Stephens
I recently created list of appearances pages for these two characters. Rebecca is currently regular and Anthony guest (I created one for Anthony as he appeared in 50+ eps). I think that Rebecca could possibly be demoted as she appeared from December 1999 - June 2000, before returning briefly in December. She also appeared in an ongoing storyline and never lived in the street. Anthony on the other hand maybe promoted as he appeared for a year (July 2000 - 2001), and also lived at No.12. Thoughts? Notdoppler 17:18, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think the sheer number of episodes they appeared, if for no other reason, in makes them regulars.--Jtomlin1uk 09:40, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, but then Frank Foster has surpassed both their episode counts and is still guest. There's also Dave Smith, but his appearances weren't all together. Maybe definitely regular if they hit 100 episodes (except people like Dave)? Notdoppler 19:37, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

I would move Anthony but I'd need to place him as credited! I still think that Rebecca should be guest as she played out in a similar fashion to how Frank Foster has (one storyline - although prolonged!). Notdoppler 18:47, October 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * For Anthony you can find the cast order on ITV Source. I agree about Rebecca being a guest. David 16:34, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * I have moved Anthony in the episode pages for which a cast list is available on ITN, although I could only find a handful. However, there are none I can find on there with cast lists for episodes with Rebecca. Is there any way of accessing them easier, or are they just not on there? If so, how can I get hold of the source for the episode cast lists as the cast lists in question have clearly been filled in on this site? Notdoppler 17:42, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm going to use the corrie.net recaps to make an "educated guess" on where they should be, or at least Rebecca for now. Notdoppler 18:01, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

Frank Foster
Has Frank Foster left yet? Is there any indication he's leaving in the next few weeks or is his storyline being dragged out? David 18:29, September 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * Based on this source, Frank definitely hasn't left. Also, his future is uncertain and if he is still around in the New Year we should probably promote him to regular. By then he will have made 100+ appearances anyway. Notdoppler 23:47, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Bear in mind that a problem in doing that is that you have to place him in the regular cast in the same position as he was credited on screen - we do prefer our cast credits to be in the original transmission order.--Jtomlin1uk 09:36, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * We can always use IMDB or for more accuracy the cast credits. But he may even be gone before that and still be deemed a guest! Notdoppler 09:40, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

I'm starting to think Frank could be moved to regular now, even though he's set to be killed off, as he has surpassed the 100 episodes mark and has been in it for a year now. Thoughts? Notdoppler 22:14, January 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Agreed. When he tried to rape Maria I thought he'd be out the door in a few weeks! I guess I was wrong. David 13:16, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Adam Barlow
I feel that Sam Robertson as Adam Barlow should remain regular, but Iain De Caestecker in the role should be guest because he appeared as Adam irregularly during his time in the role. Thoughts? Notdoppler 17:10, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * No, our usual convention is that once a regular, always a regular.--Jtomlin1uk 12:11, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * No I meant just one of the actors - i.e. Linus Roache as Peter Barlow is guest is he not? Notdoppler 14:42, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * My understanding is that the regular/guest status is applied to the character rather than a specific actor who is playing the role. Therefore, Adam Barlow would remain as regular cast. --Karen2310 17:53, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Would that apply to Peter Barlow's several short-term actors then? Notdoppler 18:23, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * In my opinion yes. The character of Peter Barlow was credited in regular cast as far back as Christopher Dormer in 1970. --Karen2310 18:34, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm, this is a tricky one. Isn't the actor the guest artiste though, not the character? And by that I don't mean that a regular actor who has previously appeared in a minor role should be listed as regular in all cases (i.e. Andy Whyment playing a minor role a few years before Kirk, obviously guest where necessary). Also, if it's the character that matters, why were all short-term actors playing a main character listed as guests in the first place? Notdoppler 18:56, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * It is a tricky one but I think the safest default is to take the position of the character, rather the actor playing them. As regards the last point of your post, sometimes we just don't know when a minor character is going to become a regular!!--Jtomlin1uk 14:34, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

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Okay, and in regards to the minor character becoming regulars bit you are definitely right there (Not to give too much away, but I can think of one example of a past minor character who is reappearing and I'm thinking of provisionally listing as regular when they return - Beth (2011 character)). Notdoppler 06:52, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

Matt Carter
I'm considering demoting this character back to guest cast because it has been announced that his ex-girlfriend is to appear on screen and as a result Tina will dump him. And, as David the Wavid said a while back, he may go back to the sidelines. Thoughts? Notdoppler 09:22, October 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Wait and bit and see what develops. I'll save having to change it again should the "announcement" prove untrue - so many of them are!--Jtomlin1uk 15:03, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Kirsty Soames
Kirsty seems to be sticking around. Regular or guest? She seems to be integrated into the street now and the actresses latest blog reveals that she is to move in with Tyrone/Tommy/Tina. Notdoppler 11:44, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm going to move her. Wouldn't take much to move her back if need be anyway. Notdoppler 11:46, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

Sam Tindall
I recently created a LoA page for this character, but it seems he was a recurring character. Can we demote him to guest? Notdoppler 15:07, November 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd say he was recurring. David 15:10, November 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm actually suprised that his number of appearances is as low as it is. I remember him being in the programme a lot in the mid to late 1980s. I also recall him being a guest on This is your Life for Bill Waddington in 1986 and he was also interviewed for TV Times. For these reasons, I'm loathe to say that he should be a guest.--Jtomlin1uk 15:14, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

I've moved him in the episodes where he is the only guest actor, as we'll need confirmation about where he should go in the guest cast section for episodes where there are other guest actors. Notdoppler 15:26, November 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * I've done a brief check and all of the verified cast lists we have for Sam seem to be on the Network DVD's - the others are TV Times which rarely match the order of what was on screen. I'd therefore move all the rest as well.--Jtomlin1uk 15:43, November 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'll just guess the order as per the plot. Then his ordering will be confirmed later, as will many others. Notdoppler 15:47, November 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * I've moved him accordingly, and noticed a pattern with the cast lists probably from TV Times, which seem to have the regular actors in a particular order, with the same actors generally appearing on the list in the same place each time. Notdoppler 16:41, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Wilf Starkey
I'm also considering promoting this character to regular, as having just created his LoA page he appeared in almost every episode between his first and last appearance. He was also a member of the Rovers staff for some months. Although this time it would be even harder to know where to place him in the regular cast sections. Notdoppler 18:37, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Sean Skinner
A character who appeared in the mid-1990s so we're only now getting a fuller picture of how often he appeared. So far we have: I've marked him as a guest, but John has marked him as a regular. David 14:59, February 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1994 - 13 appearances
 * 1995 - 30 appearances (with a gap between April and November)
 * 1996 - 6 appearances (but the year is less than half completed with cast lists)
 * 1997 - 23 appearances

Brian Packham and Beth Tinker
Any objections to these characters being upgraded to regular? David 10:03, March 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * No objections here. --Karen2310 10:18, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Phil Jennings
63 appearances between September 1990 and July 1991. Now he's a guest but I think that's enough for a regular? David 15:29, May 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * Any opinions on this? David 14:04, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * With the number of appearances (and looking deeper, a fair-sized run of consecutive episodes) I'd agree with regular. --Karen2310 15:12, May 17, 2012 (UTC)

Paul Kershaw
Reading this article it doesn't sound like Paul is going anywhere anytime soon. Should he be upgraded to regular? --Anjojo 23:14, May 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not as up-to-date on the current going-on's as I should be. Is Paul now living at No. 11 with Eileen? --Karen2310 09:08, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yep. I thought he was leaving when Lesley died but he's still there. Regular? David 15:07, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

Jackie Dobbs
65 eps, most in 1998/9 some in the late 2000’s. Thoughts? Also, opinions on Sean Skinner as per David’s piece above. My opinion (despite what I might have done previously) is that Jackie is guest whereas Sean in permanent.--Jtomlin1uk 08:28, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * Again I agree with this.... taking into consideration also that Jackie's highest run of consecutive appearances in any given year is 8, and that was while she and Deirdre were incarcerated. --Karen2310 09:04, July 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * I never realised Jackie had so few appearances. Yes, I'd say guest for her. I still think Sean Skinner is a guest though, much like how I see Dr Carter as a guest even though he's appeared since 2010, as both appear when there's a story need for them, which is a handful of times a year (although there is a period early 1997 where Sean appeared more frequently - hmmm). David 15:07, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * I wondered about Jackie a while back, but realised that since the actress was fired from the show, the character was planned to stay long-term, but left sooner than expected? This indicates regular to me. Notdoppler (talk) 22:30, October 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually is more important than intention, in this case.--Jtomlin1uk (talk) 08:42, October 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * I see your point. I guess if a character was introduced and was planned to stay long-term, but only appeared for two episodes as the actor/actress died suddenly, they would have to be deemed a guest (there would probably be a re-cast, but I think you get my point). Notdoppler (talk) 16:16, October 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yep, I see what you mean. Jackie is a very difficult one to decide on!!--Jtomlin1uk (talk) 17:39, October 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * In regards to Sean, I agree with David in that we can liken him to Dr Carter (they are similar as they are both recurring characters, both having a longer stint at some point - i.e. Matt when he was dating Tina in 2011, and Sean early 1997). However, I would say regular if only due to his late 1996-1997 stint. Still not sure about Jackie though, but my gut instinct says regular. I guess these are borderline cases and the characters are probably best being left as they are (although I've noticed Sean is still listed as guest in some episode pages) until, in the case of current characters, they get to a point where they can no longer be deemed a guest. Notdoppler (talk) 23:33, November 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think we need to decide one way or another with these characters as I've seen some pages where Jackie and Sean are listed as regular and others where they're listed as guest, and this goes against the convention of "once a regular, always a regular". Thoughts? Notdoppler (talk) 15:51, November 8, 2012 (UTC)

Mandy and Jenna Kamara
This article suggests that Mandy is a "newcomer" rather than a character brought in for a specific storyline. She's moved in with Lloyd and I believe (without giving too much away) that she is to start work at the Rovers as a chef? Also, Jenna is also becoming involved with the Websters now as well as Lloyd. Should these characters be promoted to regular, or should we wait to see how they play out first? Notdoppler (talk) 18:52, November 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think we should wait a while longer, even if they're still around until the end of the year there's a new producer coming in so things could change. David (talk) 22:59, November 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * Any further opinions as to whether these characters should still be considered to be guests or promoted to regular? The categories on these pages have been changed to reflect regular cast today without any consensus being reached. --Karen2310 (talk) 13:27, February 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * My opinion is that they are regulars now. They seem to be integrated into the cast now and it doesn't look like they're going anywhere any time soon. Also both Jenna and Mandy now live with Lloyd. Notdoppler (talk) 11:04, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

Gloria Price
Did Gloria leave for good in last night's episodes? If so, can a two month character by definition be classed as regular? Notdoppler (talk) 10:12, November 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't know if she's coming back but if she's gone for good I'd say she's definitely a guest. We should hold off on editing the articles until we know. David (talk) 11:11, November 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, just found an article from a fansite saying she's back in the new year. Nothing from any major news sites like Digitalspy yet but as you say, we should hold off for now. Notdoppler (talk) 12:11, November 6, 2012 (UTC)