Forum:Regular/guest cast

Just thought I'd move the discussion here rather than in the Help desk. Notdoppler 14:35, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Thoughts on Phil? Notdoppler 23:12, August 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * Regular. David 22:45, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

Lauren Wilson
I'm thinking maybe Lauren Wilson should be demoted to guest cast since this source suggests the character was planned to stay for a six month long stint. Also, I think Lucy Evans had an initial six month contract which was never renewed. Notdoppler 01:20, August 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * Tough one. I think she was intended to stay on but didn't work out, but that's just my guess. Does an unnamed 'spokesperson' count as a source? But then, that probably puts her in a similar position to Wilf Morton, who was clearly intended to be a regular but left right after arriving. And Len Windass. So I'd say guest. David 22:45, August 31, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thing is she did appear in quite a lot of episodes for the time she was in it and lived in the street for most of her stint, so it's definitely tough. The difference with Wilf and Len is that they appeared for longer but appeared far less frequently than Lauren. Also, Lauren's departure was announced while the other two just randomly disappeared. Notdoppler 23:02, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

I noticed you commented on the thread I started on Digitalspy David (by the way, that was me, was trying to see what people thought about the topic elsewhere!).

I think when making these decisions we should take into account how often a particular character appeared in relation to how long they appeared for as well as whether they lived in the street/how many storylines they appeared in.

So do you think Lauren is definitely guest? Notdoppler 00:13, September 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * I can only give my own opinion, but as I indicated it isn't based on anything other than gut feeling! Also, I'm going to move her list of appearance to her own page tomorrow as in that area we do have a critera - characters with fifty or more appearances get their own list of appearances page, less than 50 and the list goes on the character page. David 00:43, September 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah I was thinking you had a criteria something like that. I just assumed all regulars got their own while guests got one if they had 50 or 60 or more. Also, do you mind if I go ahead and change Lauren to guest? Notdoppler 00:46, September 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * I've gone ahead with the merge for you and have, as per that criteria, given Frank Foster a list of appearances page of his own. Frank seems to have appeared in a lot of episodes, so I'm thinking he should probably be promoted from guest to regular. Notdoppler 15:45, September 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't agree about Frank, although if he's had more than 50 appearance he should have his own page. David 08:42, September 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Why don't you agree? And what about Lauren? Sorry again for my persistence on this topic but I hope we can continue to reach mutual decisions about particular characters in the future. :) Notdoppler 14:58, September 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, Lauren is a guest. Frank has never been a permanent character, he was introduced as a villain and his storyline is still playing out. David 23:30, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

Kirsty
There is a new character called Kirsty who is arriving 7th September, and I was wondering whether this source suggests she will be regular or guest. The source suggest she will be part of "a big storyline across the summer and into the autumn is Tyrone meeting somebody...". Thoughts?
 * We'll start with guest, unless there's anything to indicate she's actually going to move to the street or get involved with characters other than Tyrone. David 23:26, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

Sandra Petty & Steve Tanner
Should Sandra Petty be listed as guest rather than regular because even though she lived in the Corner Shop flat, she pretty much played out as an extra character for Dennis.

Also, Steve Tanner seems a bit tricky since his storyline with Elsie played out pretty much over his whole stint. Is there any confirmation about whether the producers planned to keep him on or not? Notdoppler 17:41, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sandra is a definate regular for me. Have to admit that Steve veers towards being a guest.--Jtomlin1uk 22:05, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * They're both regulars IMO. Whoa, new edit box! David 22:07, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * I suppose Sandra did stay on the Street and was planned that way, so we can probably keep her regular. Steve, however, seemed like he had a planned exit and that would make him more guest. It's hard to find news about old actor contracts before the days of the internet... Notdoppler 22:37, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

Brian Packham
When would be a good time to call him regular because this source suggests he will be around for a while... Notdoppler 01:07, September 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes. David 09:53, September 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * When you said "yes", did you mean yes as in he's regular? Notdoppler 14:09, September 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, although we are only guessing that he'll be staying around. For all we know Julie will run the shop herself. David 19:42, September 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * It does clearly say that Julie will be running the shop with Brian...but maybe it would be better to see how he plays out anyway... Notdoppler 19:47, September 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Always the best policy. We promoted Dr Carter to regular, but his storyline with Tina hasn't exactly brought him to the forefront, it wouldn't surprise me if he's just being used as a plot device to bring Tina and Tommy together, after which he'll go back to the sidelines and we'll probably demote him to guest! David 20:10, September 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * I do think Dr Carter is generally publicized as a regular thought. Could you tell me what you think on the section below as well? Notdoppler 20:14, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Proposed guideline
I have been thinking about whether a guideline page for criteria on regular/guest cast statuses could be created. It could be helpful to provide a basic outline on who is regular/who is guest. Thoughts? Notdoppler 14:03, September 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Not a bad idea but rife with difficulties!!! Try having a stab and we'll see what we think! John--Jtomlin1uk 19:49, September 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * I have been experimenting in my sandbox. Feel free to add to it if you like! Thoughts/suggestions would also be nice. Notdoppler 21:39, September 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Love it! Couldn't have done it better myself. David 20:18, September 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Only thing left to do is decide on a name for the guideline. Notdoppler 20:25, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Looking good Chris, makes perfect sense to me! --Karen2310 20:53, September 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Shall we call it something like "Coronation Street Wiki:Regular/guest cast"? Notdoppler 07:08, September 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Add my praise to these set of rules and agree with the naming convention.--Jtomlin1uk 09:04, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

Guideline created, more discussion
Just to let you know I've created the topic. I've also moved some of Edna Gee's episode appearances where she is listed as regular to guest as per the consensus at this old forum. I also think maybe Jez Quigley and Vera Hopkins should be demoted to guest since they both only appeared for a few weeks at a time and weren't central characters, especially the first of the two. Same goes for Carol Baldwin and Doreen Heavey also. Notdoppler 16:39, September 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * I thought Jez was already a guest? Vera is a regular as she was as central as the rest of her family and ran the shop for a while. I'll check up on Carol and Doreen. David 19:20, September 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Jez has been listed as a guest on some of his episode articles but as regular on others. I have moved him accordingly on the pages where he is listed as regular. Notdoppler 23:19, September 12, 2011 (UTC)